On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 07:02:40AM -0500, Joel R. Helgeson wrote: > Actually, you should just look at a product called ReefEdge > (www.reefedge.com) hmm, interesting. I also see by the brochure that it will authenticate against RADIUS as well. <rant> it'd be nice if they just came out and called it a firewall/authentication server/VPN concentrator/mobile IP gateway, rather than wasting our time with 3000 buzzwords. one could describe their product in about 500 words... and I'd put a lot more faith in a company that actually came out and *said* what it did. too many words means they spent too much money on marketdroids, rather than people who make the product work well. then again, i'm not a PHB or marketdroid. </rant> Carl Soderstrom -- Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com