Currently I am using Charter Business T1 and I can pretty much do anything I want, resale is an option. T1 costs have come down, Cable and Wireless will do 700/month for a PtP T1, however you need to get a router and a CSU/DSU. Plus you still need to figure out the bandwidth usage. Jon > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Nick Ryberg wrote: > > In a crazy way, this might be a sort of odd little entrepenuer > > opportunity - get together with 2 other people in your neighborhood - > > split the $2100 cost for a startup AP + 3 subscriber units, and split > > the cost of DSL to the AP. Hmmm... it's still darned expensive for a > > normal user to get it up and running. But once, you got over the > > hump, and had five or six other people sharing the costs, it'd > > probably be a money maker. > > Remember -- reselling DSL is a risky business. > > For one, most cheap DSL accounts (ie, Real Time's TCLUG program) are > for non-commercial use only, and any resale is prohibited. In our > case, if there's not a ton of traffic through the line, we don't > actively go see if the line's being used for commercial use. If it's > sucking a ton of bandwidth, though, and we see it's commercial, > it'll cause problems. > > Also, Qwest DSL circuits are just about their lowest repair priority, > or so I've been told (even below home voice circuits). > > Only way I'd be comfortable reselling DSL is if it came from someone > like Covad (SDSL), but since Covad's on shaky grounds.. *shrugs*. > > Reselling RR Business Cable's an option; I don't recall if they prohibit > resale, but I know someone running a (small) web hosting business > off it. Reliability is pretty good (from my monitoring, well above > 99% uptime over the last 6 months), and the price is $99/mo for 1mb > symmetrical. That includes 16 IP's, too. But there's also many > places that are AT&T land instead of RoadRunner. > > Best bet would probably be to make a deal with a large provider to > get T1's at a discount rate. Chances are we couldn't get them much cheaper > than $900/mo for a full T1 (including local loop), though.. takes a whole > lot of subscribers to cover that cost. And, again, we'd HAVE to limit > customer's bandwidth.. let's say $45/mo per user, that's 20 users to > cover the cost, so the users can't expect to each be getting T1-ish > speeds. Of course, if you've got users used to RoadRunner, a T1 is > going to seem slow, too. > > > I can take this offline if people think it's way off-topic and too > > commercial for TCWUG. > > I like it, let's keep it. :) > > -- > Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.real-time.com | Fax : (952)943-8500 > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list at tcwug.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list