Currently I am using Charter Business T1 and I can pretty much do anything I 
want, resale is an option.  T1 costs have come down, Cable and Wireless will 
do 700/month for a PtP T1, however you need to get a router and a CSU/DSU.  
Plus you still need to figure out the bandwidth usage.


> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Nick Ryberg wrote:
> > In a crazy way, this might be a sort of odd little entrepenuer
> > opportunity - get together with 2 other people in your neighborhood -
> > split the $2100 cost for a startup AP + 3 subscriber units, and split
> > the cost of DSL to the AP. Hmmm... it's still darned expensive for a
> > normal user to get it up and running.  But once, you got over the
> > hump, and had five or six other people sharing the costs, it'd
> > probably be a money maker.
> Remember -- reselling DSL is a risky business.
> For one, most cheap DSL accounts (ie, Real Time's TCLUG program) are 
> for non-commercial use only, and any resale is prohibited. In our 
> case, if there's not a ton of traffic through the line, we don't 
> actively go see if the line's being used for commercial use. If it's 
> sucking a ton of bandwidth, though, and we see it's commercial,
>  it'll cause problems.
> Also, Qwest DSL circuits are just about their lowest repair priority,
>  or so I've been told (even below home voice circuits).
> Only way I'd be comfortable reselling DSL is if it came from someone 
> like Covad (SDSL), but since Covad's on shaky grounds.. *shrugs*.
> Reselling RR Business Cable's an option; I don't recall if they prohibit
> resale, but I know someone running a (small) web hosting business 
> off it. Reliability is pretty good (from my monitoring, well above 
> 99% uptime over the last 6 months), and the price is $99/mo for 1mb 
> symmetrical. That includes 16 IP's, too. But there's also many 
> places that are AT&T land instead of RoadRunner.
> Best bet would probably be to make a deal with a large provider to 
> get T1's at a discount rate. Chances are we couldn't get them much cheaper
> than $900/mo for a full T1 (including local loop), though.. takes a whole
> lot of subscribers to cover that cost. And, again, we'd HAVE to limit
> customer's bandwidth.. let's say $45/mo per user, that's 20 users to 
> cover the cost, so the users can't expect to each be getting T1-ish 
> speeds. Of course, if you've got users used to RoadRunner, a T1 is 
> going to seem slow, too.
> > I can take this offline if people think it's way off-topic and too
> > commercial for TCWUG.
> I like it, let's keep it.  :)
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