> I can do nightly rsync's of the box down to my file server at home.. that > way, if something blows up, we've got an offsite copy of it. Won't help > for 'oops i deleted the wrong file two days ago', though. sounds good. thanks nate. :) btw, does anyone have a 19" rack shelf they'll sell me at reasonable cost? I need it for this TCWUG server. I'd like to buy it outright just so there's no doubts about who owns it (a computer that I own, in a rack that I own, sitting on a small part that I don't own, makes things too complicated when it comes to relocating stuff); but I promise to use it in the service of the LUG. :) Carl. -- Network Engineer Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com