arif- i've played around with nocat a fair amount and there has been some discussion on this list historically regarding the creation of a common authentication mechanism based upon nocat. personally i'm a big fan of radius for such applications and i would be happy to host a radius server and i believe karl had a server which could be used for authentication as well. interested parties can bring it up at the next meeting and perhaps propose something for the group to use. when last we saw our hero (Monday, Oct 07, 2002), arif was madly tapping out: > Hey folks, in the process of setting up my node for public access, > I've been working on setting up nocat for authorization, and after > searching through the tcwug archive, I'm wondering if there's a tc > area database that I can connect to, or if folks are just using > nocat.net's public server? > -- steve ulrich sulrich at botwerks.org PGP: 8D0B 0EE9 E700 A6CF ABA7 AE5F 4FD4 07C9 133B FAFC