Hey Chuck- I see your side here. But consider one thing here: The ham club has been around since 1919. We have a number of alumni members that keep the club going in lean student-enrollment years. The Ham club's 83 years in existance sorta daunts the 2+ years of TC-WUG. =) Regards, ---Matthew Genelin--- > I'm concerned however that an arrangement with the Gopher HAM Club may > not be so good either: it may be more temporary than TCWUG may want. If > equipment is given to the HAM club, it is theirs, not ours. If it's a > student club, then there's nobody with continuity, and they could decide > to limit usage or scrap out the equipment if there are no interested > student leaders for WiFi that semester. Student enthusiasm is great, > but usually peaks in the sophomore year and fades away afterwards. > > Chuck > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: tcwug-list-admin at tcwug.org [mailto:tcwug-list-admin at tcwug.org]On >> Behalf Of steve ulrich >> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:02 AM >> To: tcwug-list at tcwug.org >> Cc: 'SpencerUnderground '; 'Renee Ladd '; 'W Braun ' >> Subject: Re: [TCWUG] Install Moos [hurdle] >> >> >> >> setting aside the issues associated with the terms of the lease and >> such. i would like to applaud arnan for stepping up to the plate and >> being willing to engage the ham club and tcwug in what i think is >> ultimately a very generous offer. being pragmatic about things i >> don't think that there's anything in the terms of the lease offered by >> arnan that is draconian - this is standard lease stuff, which >> includes holding the leasee responsible for the state of the goods >> given that they don't really hold title to the gear in question. >> >> i don't think that it's fair for arnan to lease the gear (at zero >> cost) and expect them to pay for the gear to be fixed if something >> happens to it. >> >> unfortunately - i believe we've run into the the hurdle that i think >> we all saw coming wrt a loose knit group of individuals having an >> interest in a particular technology and no formal mechanisms to engage >> organizations (read: businesses) that would like to do something good, >> like arnan. >> >> despite the best held intentions of the parties involved, there are >> times when the needs of both cannot be addressed. in all fairness i >> doubt we (tcwug specifically) are in a position to engage anybody in >> such a dialog until we formalize (legally) our organization. >> >> as an aside - it would likely behoove us (tcwug) to come to a good >> working arrangement with the gopher radio club to address these >> matters in the best (overlapping) interests of the 2 groups. >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, > Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org > tcwug-list at tcwug.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list