BTW, you can now get GPRS for $20 with a phone plan, or *$30* standalone. Unlimited. If your a t-mobile customer, you can use their website to email a CSR and they put it on for me odd hours last night! GPRS isn't be all end all, but its better than nothing. Be sure to ask for the VPN option if you need a real IP address and not a NAT-ed address. The NAT address is the internet2.voicestream.com APN and the non-NAT is internet3.voicestream.com -- Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org> KC0OBS http://www.ringworld.org/ _______________________________________________ Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.tcwug.org tcwug-list at tcwug.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list