From cncole at earthlink.net Wed Dec 22 19:36:07 2010 From: cncole at earthlink.net (Chuck Cole) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:36:07 -0600 Subject: [tcwug-list] [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 72, Issue 29 In-Reply-To: <1293060798.18292.275.camel@sysadmin3a> Message-ID: Is TCWUG (ie, wireless user group) a dead thing or a good place for wireless topics? Chuck -----Original Message----- From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:33 PM To: TCLUG Mailing List Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 72, Issue 29 It could be he meant internet (note: lowercase ' i ' ) to mean its basic term of network of networks, which could also have one or more paths to the (big ' I ') Internet. A large scale wireless network is difficult to manage. Also licensed frequencies are so much better to use in terms of signal interference but they cost non-zero dollars. I am not suggesting you quit trying but it will take a serious effort (read: lots of time) to actually deploy and maintain on an ongoing basis. This project is only passively interesting to me personally but I have no problems offering up moral support and assist on any periodic troubleshooting requests sent via the list here. On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 17:09 -0600, Tony Yarusso wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Samael wrote: > fcc opend up bandwidth for public use. we could make a wireless mesh > network consisting of multiple antena and start our own internet. Yes, technically you *could*, but just how much usefulness would a network with just you on it have? No access to your bank, Freenode, mn-linux.org, Google, etc. "Critical mass" and "economy of scale" are pretty important concepts here. - Tony _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list From mjbird at clavdivs.org Wed Dec 22 19:58:55 2010 From: mjbird at clavdivs.org (Michael J. Bird) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:58:55 -0600 Subject: [tcwug-list] [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 72, Issue 29 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C08BD29-CAD2-4B69-96C4-6088602936F9@clavdivs.org> I'm still here. :-) Mike Bird +1.612.564.2473 On Dec 22, 2010, at 7:36 PM, "Chuck Cole" wrote: > Is TCWUG (ie, wireless user group) a dead thing or a good place for wireless topics? > > Chuck > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Justin Krejci > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:33 PM > To: TCLUG Mailing List > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 72, Issue 29 > > > It could be he meant internet (note: lowercase ' i ' ) to mean its basic term of network of networks, which could also have one or more paths to the (big ' I ') Internet. > > > A large scale wireless network is difficult to manage. Also licensed frequencies are so much better to use in terms of signal interference but they cost non-zero dollars. > I am not suggesting you quit trying but it will take a serious effort (read: lots of time) to actually deploy and maintain on an ongoing basis. This project is only passively interesting to me personally but I have no problems offering up moral support and assist on any periodic troubleshooting requests sent via the list here. > > On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 17:09 -0600, Tony Yarusso wrote: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Samael wrote: >> fcc opend up bandwidth for public use. we could make a wireless mesh >> network consisting of multiple antena and start our own internet. > > Yes, technically you *could*, but just how much usefulness would a > network with just you on it have? No access to your bank, Freenode, > mn-linux.org, Google, etc. "Critical mass" and "economy of scale" are > pretty important concepts here. > > - Tony > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tcwug-list at tcwug.org > http://mailman.tcwug.org/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list