> >Is there ANYTHING Ascend can do to get this fixed? Ascend, are you out > >there? > > > Why would this be Ascend's problem? Some brain-damaged programmer writes > something that can't be played through anything doing NAT, and it's an > Ascend problem? Gee I was about to respond to the same thing. > > All the P75 is doing is passing data unmolested, which is precisely what a > router should do. Surely we don't expect Ascend to write special code to > deal with every game that comes down the pike. The P75 would have to break > apart every packet and *guess* whether or not it's a Quake packet, rewrite But that is what NAT does. It takes off the local Ip address, sticks on the ip address of the router and puts that info in a NAT table for when it gets a response. Or am I wrong? > the address, reassemble the packet, and send it. No thanks. The router can > massage the packet header - that's the router's job in this case - but leave > the data the hell alone. Let the geniuses who wrote Quake fix the massive > bug in their program that prevents it from working in any NAT environment. I agree that it should be fixed by the quake people, to be NAT compliant. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Jake Messinger 713-772-6690 jake@ams.com Advanced Medical Systems, Inc. jake@uh.edu 8300 Bissonnet #400 fax: 713-774-3498 Houston, Texas 77074 <A HREF="http://www.ams.com/~jake">http://www.ams.com/~jake</A> ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ++ Ascend Users Mailing List ++ To unsubscribe: send unsubscribe to ascend-users-request@bungi.com To get FAQ'd: <<A HREF="http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq">http://www.nealis.net/ascend/faq</A>> </PRE> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <HR> <STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A HREF="msg10327.html">Re: (ASCEND) Quake/QW and Pipeline 75 and NAT</A></STRONG></LI> <UL> <LI><EM>From</EM>: "Dale Botkin" <dbotkin@probe.net></LI> </UL> </UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <HR> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10332.html">Re: (ASCEND) P130 Performance?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10329.html">Re: (ASCEND) P130 Performance?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10327.html">Re: (ASCEND) Quake/QW and Pipeline 75 and NAT</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg10330.html">Re: (ASCEND) Quake/QW and Pipeline 75 and NAT</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="maillist.html#10331"><STRONG>Main</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thrd225.html#10331"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> </BODY> </HTML>