I think this topic comes from the TCLUG, or the Linux Users Group.


Alex Hartman wrote:

>Did i miss somthing? What are you talking about? Look through my headers,
>Outlook Express... I'm sorry, but i think i'm utterly confused on your whole
>topic in this group.
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: <nryberg at uspsoig.gov>
>To: <tcwug-list at tcwug.org>
>Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:46 PM
>Subject: [TCWUG] Religion, e-mail clients and wireless?
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>>This mailing list exists for the sole purpose of exchanging information
>>about using wireless computer communication. The de facto standard for
>>e-mail is plain text, without any HTML formatting or unneccesary
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>x-messages.
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>>Almost all users adhere to this almost without question so that what they
>>have to _say_ gets heard, without making a fuss about _how_ the message
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>>across.
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>>To get upset over the fact that I use Outlook as an e-mail client is
>>slightly more frivolous than my personal choice of color for my car.  If I
>>use it responsibly (read: no HTML), and treat the other users on this list
>>with respect, I expect the same in kind.
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>>If you can't tell already, I'm really tired of being told I'm using a
>>'crappy' e-mail client.  I can't deny that Outlook is 'a breeding ground
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>for
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>>viruses', but that's what well configured MTU, good firewalls, and
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>thorough
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>>virus scanning is for - I'm fairly confident in saying that just about 99%
>>of the TCWUG users are technically compentant enough to implement those
>>three controls on their own.
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>>Let me ask you this - are you afraid of contracting a virus through this
>>list?  I sincerely doubt it.  Most clients are *NIX based, and are fairly
>>tightly controlled.  The ones that are most susceptible (other Outlook
>>users) are the ones that will suffer, NOT the people who shout, protest,
>>whine and complain that I'm using a 'crappy' client.
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>>To abuse a technical feature used by Outlook, just to continue a personal
>>vendetta against Outlook users pretty much places you in the same camp as
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>>rank newbie sending out a plea for help in HTML format.  Either way, I'm
>>getting garbage that I don't want or expect.  At least the newbie is
>>innocent, using x-message-flags is a unique blend of vandalism and
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>childish
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>>fit throwing.
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>>I've said it privately before, I'll take my opinion on the road with this
>>one:  If you expect the TCWUG community to reach some sort of critical
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>mass
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>>in terms of enough users to create a usable, shared, open network, you
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>have
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>>to be open to users who don't use the same operating system, who don't use
>>the same e-mail client, or who don't know one end of a PCMCIA card from
>>another, but are willing to learn enough about wireless to be dangerous.
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>>In short, you've got to be 'nice', or you won't get to have any fun with
>>anyone else.  You don't have the luxury of ticking off others just because
>>it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy.  Sure you get the nifty thrill of
>>being a 'hacker' (in the negative sense), but in the end, you're stuck
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>>your own AP, and very few others to talk to.
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>>As a last point, one of the offending x-message lines suggested that the
>>user go to cws.internet.com/mail.html, which I thought rather ironically
>>lists MS Outlook express as the second best client, and Outlook 2000 in
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>>respectable number nine spot.  Guess they're not that crappy after all.
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>>- Nick
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