I think this topic comes from the TCLUG, or the Linux Users Group. Alex Hartman wrote: >Did i miss somthing? What are you talking about? Look through my headers, >Outlook Express... I'm sorry, but i think i'm utterly confused on your whole >topic in this group. > >-- >Alex Hartman - goober at goobe.net >PGP Key fingerprint = 26 41 19 56 19 81 E2 BC EE C8 1D F4 DB B8 ED B8 >"All in all is all we all are..." -Kurt Cobain RIP 1967-1994 > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <nryberg at uspsoig.gov> >To: <tcwug-list at tcwug.org> >Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:46 PM >Subject: [TCWUG] Religion, e-mail clients and wireless? > > > > >>This mailing list exists for the sole purpose of exchanging information >>about using wireless computer communication. The de facto standard for >>e-mail is plain text, without any HTML formatting or unneccesary >> >> >x-messages. > > >>Almost all users adhere to this almost without question so that what they >>have to _say_ gets heard, without making a fuss about _how_ the message >> >> >gets > > >>across. >> >>To get upset over the fact that I use Outlook as an e-mail client is >>slightly more frivolous than my personal choice of color for my car. If I >>use it responsibly (read: no HTML), and treat the other users on this list >>with respect, I expect the same in kind. >> >>If you can't tell already, I'm really tired of being told I'm using a >>'crappy' e-mail client. I can't deny that Outlook is 'a breeding ground >> >> >for > > >>viruses', but that's what well configured MTU, good firewalls, and >> >> >thorough > > >>virus scanning is for - I'm fairly confident in saying that just about 99% >>of the TCWUG users are technically compentant enough to implement those >>three controls on their own. >> >>Let me ask you this - are you afraid of contracting a virus through this >>list? I sincerely doubt it. Most clients are *NIX based, and are fairly >>tightly controlled. The ones that are most susceptible (other Outlook >>users) are the ones that will suffer, NOT the people who shout, protest, >>whine and complain that I'm using a 'crappy' client. >> >>To abuse a technical feature used by Outlook, just to continue a personal >>vendetta against Outlook users pretty much places you in the same camp as >> >> >a > > >>rank newbie sending out a plea for help in HTML format. Either way, I'm >>getting garbage that I don't want or expect. At least the newbie is >>innocent, using x-message-flags is a unique blend of vandalism and >> >> >childish > > >>fit throwing. >> >>I've said it privately before, I'll take my opinion on the road with this >>one: If you expect the TCWUG community to reach some sort of critical >> >> >mass > > >>in terms of enough users to create a usable, shared, open network, you >> >> >have > > >>to be open to users who don't use the same operating system, who don't use >>the same e-mail client, or who don't know one end of a PCMCIA card from >>another, but are willing to learn enough about wireless to be dangerous. >> >>In short, you've got to be 'nice', or you won't get to have any fun with >>anyone else. You don't have the luxury of ticking off others just because >>it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy. Sure you get the nifty thrill of >>being a 'hacker' (in the negative sense), but in the end, you're stuck >> >> >with > > >>your own AP, and very few others to talk to. >> >>As a last point, one of the offending x-message lines suggested that the >>user go to cws.internet.com/mail.html, which I thought rather ironically >>lists MS Outlook express as the second best client, and Outlook 2000 in >> >> >the > > >>respectable number nine spot. Guess they're not that crappy after all. >> >>- Nick >>_______________________________________________ >>Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, >> >> >Minnesota > > >>http://www.tcwug.org >>tcwug-list at tcwug.org >>https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >Twin Cities Wireless Users Group Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >http://www.tcwug.org >tcwug-list at tcwug.org >https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tcwug-list > > >