until recently (after my query on this matter) this list required
"approval".  the confirmation requirement is a no brainer.  i believe
that bob's comments were directed at the spambots being able to handle
the confirmation process.  

when last we saw our hero (Monday, Jun 03, 2002), 
 Brent J. Nordquist was madly tapping out:
> On Fri, 31 May 2002, Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> wrote:
> > Quoting steve ulrich (sulrich at botwerks.org):
> >
> > > it would be nice
> > > to easily facilitate the insertion of new members without additional
> > > overhead.
> >
> > spambots are smart and we have had problem on the tclug-list,
> Mailman has two separate checks:  one is "approval" meaning a human (the
> list admin) has to OK it (which can introduce significant delay); the
> other is "confirm" which means the person has to return an email to prove
> the email address isn't fake, and that they control the mailbox where mail
> is delivered.  Those two features can be enabled separately or in
> combination.
> Most Internet lists I'm on only require "confirm" not "approval"; if the
> TCWUG list did that there wouldn't be a posting delay for people who
> wanted to post their question at 3AM.

steve ulrich                       sulrich at botwerks.org
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