this is a problem with any mailing list. i've been able to work through the closed list subscription process bit with the organization in question. in retrospect perhaps i should have just told them that the mailing list was open and left it at that. that aside - there are people who might want to just pop onto a list and pop off if they have a question and/or who would really like to join the list but are turned off by having to wait for an "approval". i'll agree that spammers can make life a PITA but i think that erring in the side of openess is the right thing to do while working to get momentum for a user group. when last we saw our hero (Friday, May 31, 2002), Bob Tanner was madly tapping out: > Quoting steve ulrich (sulrich at botwerks.org): > > obviously if there are instances of spammers or abuse of the list > > these offenders should be handled appropriately but it would be > > nice to easily facilitate the insertion of new members without > > additional overhead. > > spambots are smart and we have had problem on the tclug-list, first > it was denying subscriptions from hotmail.com, then yahoo.com, then > it went to total administrative approval. > > I'd be happy to open up subscribing, my inbox is protected by RBL, > RSS, and spamassassin, but most aren't. > -- steve ulrich sulrich at botwerks.org PGP: 8D0B 0EE9 E700 A6CF ABA7 AE5F 4FD4 07C9 133B FAFC