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Re: (ASCEND) Ethernet -> Answer -> PPP Options -> Recv Auth=PAP vs. Either
On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Phillip Vandry wrote:
> > > The only solution is to disable CHAP.
> >
> > Well the problem is an M$ problem, non-windows dial-in will be
> > okay with Either because they can be set to PAP first, but Microsoft has
> > MS-CHAP (a CHAP version) that will be used before the configured
> > authentication protocol. AFAIK there is no way to disable MS-CHAP auth in
> > windows products, we ran into the same problem with having Cisco ISDN
> > CHAP customers and our regular user base (mostly windows).
>
> As much as I hate to agree with Microsoft on any point, I think this
> is reasonable. Barring explicit configuration, a client should indeed
> select a crypted algorithm (better from its point of view) over a
> non crypted one if it's given the choice!
>
> It's the PPP protocol that would have needed a different design, i.e.
> some LCP parameters getting negociated after the username is known,
> not before.
But aren't there issues with the CHAP protocol in radius. Ie how
strong is security in the CHAP radius implementation compared to the PAP
radius information; because I remember our Systems group discussing that
CHAP had to have password or cryptokeys or something in clear text...
Maybe you can answer...
Cyril Jaouich [CJ837]
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AT&T Canada Internetworking specialist
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